>County records show 12 convicted sex offenders living in 3 Greenville homes

>Current records available online from the Darke County Sheriff’s Office indicate 12 convicted sex offenders live in three residences, all close to each other, near downtown Greenville. These records were cross-referenced with records available from the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections. These records are summarized below.

116 Ludlow Street, Greenville, Ohio
1. P.B. – Unlawful sexual conduct w/a minor, Gross Sexual Imposition, Tier III Sex Offender with Notification.Victim: Child Female. [no match in search at ODRC]

2. S.H. 2907.05(A)(4) – Gross Sexual Imposition victim Under 13. Tier III Sex Offender with Notification. Victim: Child Female. [served just under a year in prison; crime(s) committed in Wood Co.]

3. C.K. 2907.04 – Unlawful sexual conduct w/a minor. Tier II Sex Offender. Victim: Youth Female. [served just under one year in prison; crimes committed in Logan and Shelby Co.]

4. C.L. 2907.05(A)(4) – Gross Sexual Imposition victim Under 13 Attempt. Victim :Child Female. [served just under a year in prison; crime(s) committed in Miami Co.]

5. J.M. 2907.05(A)(4) – Gross Sexual Imposition victim Under 13. 2905.01(A)(4) Kidnapping of minor to engage in sexual activity. Tier III Sex Offender with Notification. Victim :Child Female,Victim. [served about a year-and-a-half in prison; crime(s) committed in Montgomery Co.]

6. W.S. 2905.02 – Abduction. 2907.02 – Rape. Tier III Sex Offender with Notification. [served just under 9 years in prison; crime(s) committed in Clinton Co.]

323 East Main Street, Greenville, Ohio
1. A.M. 2907.05 – Gross Sexual Imposition. Victim :Child Female. [no match in search at ODRC]

2. G.M. 2907.07 – Importuning. Tier III Child Victim Offender with Notification. [no match in search at ODRC]

3. M.V. 2907.05(A)(4) – Gross Sexual Imposition victim Under 13. Tier II Sex Offender. Victim :Child Female. [served 3+ years in prison; crime(s) committed in Scioto Co.]

449 East Third Street, Greenville, Ohio
1. H.D. – Crime(s) committed in another state. Unlawful sexual conduct w/a minor [no match in search at ODRC]

2. J.P. – 2907.05(A)3 – Gross Sexual Imposition. 2907.02 – Rape. Tier III Sex Offender with Notification. Victim :Child Female. [served 12 years in prison; crime(s) committed in Van Wert Co.]

3. H.P. – 2907.05 – Gross Sexual Imposition. 2907.02 – Rape. Tier III Sex Offender with Notification. Victim :Child Female. [no match in search at ODRC]

These three residences are all within several blocks of East Elementary School in a residential neighborhood.

County auditor records indicate that all of the homes are owned by John and Kathleen Graham, and are part of their Samaritan Home Program. The homes are listed as part of ODRC Independent Housing Program, which contracts (compensates) entities which will take in eligible paroled prisoners.

UPDATE: This story was originally posted on May 28, 2010, and bumped back to the top of the page on June 4, 2010, as a preview for new information coming soon.

  1. #1 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 10:52 am

    >Animals can be castrated. Connect the dots.

  2. #2 by Disappointed on May 28, 2010 - 11:39 am

    >John may have had good intentions in the beginning but it appears money got the best of him and now he is putting our community at risk. Shame on you John Graham!

  3. #3 by Guest#1 on May 28, 2010 - 11:45 am

    >Way to go John, Just what Greenville needs, a bunch of rapist's moving in.Does the city have any way using zoning codes to get rid of these houses?

  4. #4 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 11:59 am

    >I know that they are legally far enough away from the school, but it's still a little too close for my liking. Shame on the Grahams for allowing these people right in the downtown area and within 5 blocks of an elementary school!

  5. #5 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 12:10 pm

    >First all this zoning for low income housing which has brought some strange characters roming the streets at all hours (not to mention all the 911 calls these complexes have). Now we get convicted sex offenders. Whats next recovering murderers? Hey lets put up the shoe bomber he may like it here. Then we can put up billboards acrossed Ohio so these idiots know they can move into this once nice community.

  6. #6 by LL on May 28, 2010 - 12:38 pm

    >I see the need for transitional housing for these guys. However, here's the problem: there are far too many of them for our little town to accomodate. Plus, they aren't even from this community. They have no family here. Finally, there are no jobs for them in this town. I think Graham's original intention was good, but this has gone too far. Something has to be done.

  7. #7 by Kathy on May 28, 2010 - 12:47 pm

    >I am extremely upset about this.. I have two granddaughters that attend East and my kids live within a block of the school, what a shame that we are putting these children at risk. This community needs to ban together and remove those sex offenders from the area. I agree 7:59 – they are legally far enough away from the school but still too close. You would think that John Graham would be more sensitive to this, hopwever, I garee money is a motivator. What a shame!

  8. #8 by Alex B on May 28, 2010 - 12:47 pm

    >Don't know the Grahams at all but I hope they don't have young children/grandchildren here in town. Sex offenders generally cannot be rehabilitated. SHAME ON YOU, JOHN GRAHAM!

  9. #9 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 12:53 pm

    >Why are most of them from other counties? And I've been told a school-bus stop is right in front of the one on Ludlow, is that true? does the school board know about it?

  10. #10 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 1:02 pm

    >To 8:10 there are all ready people that have done horrific crimes against one another including murder that live in the area and no one knows

  11. #11 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 1:04 pm

    >This is outrageous……something needs to be done to close these houses…citizens of Greenville wake-up before an innocent child is hurt……Greenville children need to be protected. Their protection should come before any rehabilitation services for convicted sex offenders. John Graham needs to find another way of making a living.

  12. #12 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 1:38 pm

    >One of the biggest issues is that Graham was suspposedly going to house local offenders but now he is recruiting from Toledo, Cincinnati, and other places. Greenville should not be the dumping grounds for sex offenders.

  13. #13 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 1:52 pm

    >I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the reality here is that it is only a matter of time until one of these individuals can no longer fight off the urge and will re-offend.Shame on you Mr. Graham for allowing your program, for whatever reason, to grow to this size. You are increasing the percentages that someone will re-offend with each additional individual that you allow into your program.When, not if, this unfortunate event occurs, I hope you feel the same pain that will be endured by the innocent victim and their family.

  14. #14 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 3:17 pm

    >The zoning laws alow John to have these houses and until we have a change and someone who is alowed to inforce all the law of the zoning equally for all then these things will happen. He is a business man and is right within the law. Can't enforce something that is not against the law. We can't even enforce the laws we have if it affects friend of the city offical's. So far John G has made sure his clients are in check. If they came here without John G. no one would be checking on the. Several of the clients are doing well.

  15. #15 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 3:36 pm

    >I am probably more liberal than most on this board. My problem is that these people are trying to do something noble/good with other people's children at risk. If their own children/grandchildren surrounded these homes I'd say fine. Stupid, but fine. I just don't appreciate my kids being the bait for someone else's attempt at do-gooding.

  16. #16 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 3:41 pm

    >why don't you all quit complaning and DO SOMETHING ABOOUT!!!!! this town grew together for the CO2 thing!!!!!!!!!! If ya don't like it then do something about….plain and simple

  17. #17 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 4:20 pm

    >I can't even let my daughter walk the two blocks from our house to grandmas house because we live within a few blocks of one of the houses!! By the way I thought whenever a sex offender moved into the neighborhood they were supposed to send out something to residents saying so. I will get maybe one of these cards for every 10 offenders that moves into that house. Why is that?? The only reason I know this is because I get emails from the sheriffs dept. whenever a sex offender moves into the area. It is rediculous that we can't even let our children out to play anymore because of these houses!!

  18. #18 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 4:24 pm

    >This is scary! I knew about the one on ludlow but I didn't realise that there was a second one so close by! I never knew about the one on E. Third! This is nuts!! With that many half way houses that would put, what, about 1/3 of our community being sex offenders!? Wow, I knew Greenville was getting bad but I didn't realise that it was a member of our own community making it that way!!

  19. #19 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 4:58 pm

    >Though I share some of your concerns, maybe you should check the sheriff's website and see how many sex offenders are all over this county without support or accountability that the Grahams provide for those living in their houses. I'm more worried about the ones that have no one to watch over them or who we don't know about yet. At least someone is trying to help these guys – the only hope is for them to receive support and accountability to choose a better life.

  20. #20 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 5:41 pm

    >And he has purchased another..on 4th Street.

  21. #21 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 5:56 pm

    >Check also with the Greenville Police Dept. and EMS about calls to these houses for overdoses.

  22. #22 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 6:51 pm

    >These guys CAN'T be helped! If you look into it almost all sexual offenders will reoffend!!

  23. #23 by Anonymous on May 28, 2010 - 9:38 pm

    >OK – seems like everyone here is in agreement about this. So, what can we do as citizens to "make some noise" about this? There's gotta be a lot of us banded together – but how? Ideas?

  24. #24 by Anonymous on May 29, 2010 - 12:18 am

    >A re-zoning drive. Do it legally.

  25. #25 by Anonymous on May 29, 2010 - 12:28 am

    >They are out and about all day unsupervised and kids aren't always at school. I recall the city council tried to put an end to it a couple years ago. The bleeding heart liberals jumped to their defense. Many have more than one offense and have not changed. This community doesn't have the resources or jobs for this group. I remember hearing John Graham state that he sees Greenville as a haven for this part of the population and he has plans for many more facilities.

  26. #26 by Anonymous on May 29, 2010 - 3:29 am

    >Here's some advice for some of you people. If you have a teenage daughter, teacher how to dress because alot of these girls are begging for these guys attention, also I know some of these girls lie about their age to these men and when they get caught they turn it around on those guys. at least that's what happened to my husband who is there in one of mr. graham's houses. Then we find out the girl is all over her face book page bragging about how she lied to the cops. My husband is a good man who loves his children, and this happened before we got together but I have been by his side the entire time. Why don't you people stop yelling threats at these guys when you pass the house. To answer 12:20 the reason you get some and not others is because not all of the men there are threats to anyone and they have no notification because of that. Mr. Graham only takes the low risk offenders he does not take high risk and his grandchildren has been around there and guess what they do they make the offenders stay inside, all the houses have a 10 pm curfew so they are not out at all hours. Please get your facts straight. The offenders only stay for 90 days then they go home. Mr. Graham is trying to do something good for individuals who deserve a second chance. Now if they blow that chance I agree with everyone else then, but at least give them a chance to rehabilitate. If your that worried maybe the town can come together and purchase a large home for the offenders to go to out in the country where they would be away from the crowded downtown. But then you need to develope a way for them to be able to go to town or where ever there is job openings for them to apply so they can make a living and eventually go back to their family's. When these guys go out in town they are supervised by the way, before they leave they have to log where they are going and they get checked up on while there in these locations. So if you don't know the facts please quit saying things that aren't true as the program is a decent one.

  27. #27 by Anonymous on May 29, 2010 - 5:02 am

    >Don't even go there about the way these girls dress!! I know women who don't go around with their body parts hanging out who have been raped, but let me guess they deserved it, righ? No one deserves it!! Maybe your husband should have asked for an id if the girl looked like she was under 21! I don't feel the least bit sorry for men like your husband & these men don't deserve a second chance to do something to one of my relatives or friends so maybe they all just need to be flown to a town in Alaska where people like you can let them pray on their families if they so choose!!! And just because these guys say their somewhere that doesn't mean thats where they are!

  28. #28 by Anonymous on May 29, 2010 - 11:38 am

    >11:29…I don't feel the least bit sorry for your husband either. I don't want any of these guys in our downtown area or near schools. Your "argument" about the way people dress is a wash as well. It is a fact that most sex offenders do not go after skimpy dressers.Mr. Graham is not doing any good by bringing out of town sex perverts into our community for any amount of time.Go take a hike, and take your cheating hubby with you.

  29. #29 by Kathy on May 29, 2010 - 1:25 pm

    >I will be present at the next zoning meeting and there is a council meeting this coming Tuesday, June 1 at 7:30 pm in Council chambers… I would encourage all of you to show up at council and speak. There is only way to put pressure on those that make decisions and that is OPEN YOUR MOUTH… I will be at council meeting – WILL YOU?

  30. #30 by Guest#1 on May 29, 2010 - 2:04 pm

    >If you are a city resident you can call your councilperson and mayor and pass along your concerns about this and ask them what can be done.That is a good starting point.

  31. #31 by Anonymous on May 29, 2010 - 3:05 pm

    >Wow the witch hunt is on isn't it. These guys need a place to go even if it is temporary. I did some research and the houses that the live in have camera's and the one lady was right they have a curfew and have to log where they go. If anyone has any worries about their safety or their childrens they can contact the darke county probation officers department and get any neccessary information they need.

  32. #32 by DJ on May 29, 2010 - 3:28 pm

    >11:05 … I have to disagree with a coule things you wrote.1. These guys were in prison and then paroled. They have parole officers, and those parle officers cover huge areas. The ones I've dealt with in the past are headquartered in Dayton and Lima. There are no local "probation officers" for these guys.2. If somebody is wiling to commit a rape, or have sex with an underage girl, they will probably do it whether or not there's a camera or curfew. These guys have already established they are willing to violate the law.3. My point remains that I would have no problem if we were rehabilitating Darke County guys. I don't like that we're importing other county's sex offenders.

  33. #33 by LL on May 30, 2010 - 2:52 am

    >This is possibly a first for me in that I actually agree with dj on this one. As I wrote before, I'm all for getting help for these guys. However, a town of 13,500 does not have the resources to help them, and I believe it could be dangerous to have so many concentrated in a small area. It just makes no sense to bring so many here to Darke County. We have enough problems as it is. I would be in favor of a change in zoning, or anything to get these houses closed down.

  34. #34 by Anonymous on May 30, 2010 - 6:29 am

    >I lived a few houses down from the house on 3rd street and it was a disaster, commotions at all hours and then John would attempt to settle them since he lives across the street, but it only attracted other problems. We moved from our home and took a loss on the price to get away from our cars being broke into on a regular basis, stuff stolen from our property and even these sexual offenders watching the children get on the bus right at the corner of 3rd and locust. the parents were furious and it took months to get the stop moved one block….i believe these houses need to be moved. John claims he is helping these people, but i witnessed firsthand that it is more enabling than rehabilitation.

  35. #35 by Anonymous on May 30, 2010 - 12:11 pm

    >Didn't we the people already speak on this issue years ago when John G approached the city about his "half way house"? I remember watching it unfold at the city council meeting. I guess there were no infringements on this. My sister in law lives within a block and begged city council members to not let this happen but as in most cases, it was to no avail! I think it is proposterous that this can happen in our town. Why doesn't John G., move to a big city and leave us all alone. We don't need this kind of threat in our community.

  36. #36 by Anonymous on May 30, 2010 - 5:32 pm

    >I agrre that the offenders need to be going to where their from. But the the prison system won't allow that if they have no where to go and there is no houses. But everyone needs to stop condemning all of the offenders, there are some that will rehabilitate and move on with their lives they just got messed up with a teenage girl who was acting out and probably lied about her age. I feel sorry for the families of the innocent victims. It isn't right for a man to do that to a young child, and I know not all teenage girls are like that but I hope some of you see that there is a small percentage of these offenders who are victims theirselves because of a lying teenage girl. I'm an attorney and I have seen it where one of my cases had to go to prison because of this and she lied to the police and later sent a letter to me saying how see lied and it was her fault but the judge deemed it inadmissable in court so he had to do the time and be registered. He also went to a half way house and people yelled comments to him and made threats to him and now he is stuck with the sex offender title because she lied and told him that she was 23 years old. Please be careful of what you say as it might be someone who is innocent. Although 90% of the time they are not innocent. As 11:29 said maybe the town could come together to find a home elsewhere for these men to get them out of your town.

  37. #37 by Anonymous on May 30, 2010 - 7:26 pm

    >How much does Mr Graham get paid to take these folks? I've heard it is VERY lucrative. I agree this needs to stop. He should take his cast of characters to live in the inner city of a major city. Does he had any success stories? WHO in their right mind would ever hire these people and put their business on the line? How could they ever pass a background check? I heard the house he's purchased on 4th street is close to the bike path that runs along the creek, the path that kids use all the time.I think it's high time our city officials take action to clean up this city, rezone it and send him off to the set up houses in the cities these people came from – and let John Graham know that we not his dumping ground. Many people have told me that John is an ordained minister. What religion? I've heard that he has been connected with several different churches and switches religions often. Are the local churches behind him? Does the city have funds to fight a law suit and pay a settlement should these sex offenders harm someone? And let's not forget the cost of providing them an attorney because they won't be able to afford one, court costs, expense of being in jail, etc.

  38. #38 by Anonymous on May 30, 2010 - 8:53 pm

    >I attended the Community Circle meetings for a couple years. This is the support system for the offenders. They were not remorseful, just angry that they had to register. Some are diagnosed and required very strong medication. Mr and Mrs Bonfiglio as well as other were very concerned that they were not on these because it is required that they get treatment at the local mental health facility. At the time, Mr Graham had not made sure they were able to get those prescriptions written and filled. Once they leave his house, they qualify for food stamps and more in our county. I agree, we don't have the resources. I can say there are some truely caring people trying to mentor at the circle, but the offenders are not required to attend. At one of the last meetings I attended, Graham stated he has a vision of Greenville being a haven for these people. He is planning many more "independent housing" facilities in Greenville. To be fair the city council tried to stop it.

  39. #39 by Anonymous on May 31, 2010 - 3:20 pm

    >Geez, they all commited their crimes in other counties and we bus them here to live amoung us….WTH????

  40. #40 by Anonymous on June 1, 2010 - 11:51 pm

    >Kathy Beam just gave a spirited account of this problem to the city council—– evidently they are powerless (like all politicians) but Mr. Amick had some encouragement. well, we could find out how to cut off Mr. gGaham's funding???/ He's making a fortune.

  41. #41 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 1:31 am

    >I remember when the 3rd street house was suppose to be a woman's battered shelter. What ever happened to that. One of the last family's there was the family that lost all the kids in the fire across from east school.

  42. #42 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 6:58 pm

    >I praise John Graham for the work and dedication to what he feels is God's calling. I knew John many years ago and I have the upmost respect for him. As usual people want places for "these people" as long as it's not "HERE". How it saddens me to read the close minded comments above. These people aren't the boogeymen. They aren't monsters either. They are sick for sure and need God's love and grace.Now before I get a 100 nasty comments about my views let me clarify a few things. First I am a mother of 5 children. I was sexually abused when I was 6 – 8 years old by a family member and I was raped by an unknown person when I was in my late 20s. So I am a parent and a victim and I can still find compassion for those who are sick. Physically and emotionally sick. Do any of you remember the mid 80's and the early AIDS scare. People wanted the AIDS victims locked away or shipped to an island all their own. Education does a lot doesn't it. Perhaps more education is needed here too. Not every offender can be cured, but we need to try.Oh and a quick comment to the person complaning about the disruptions in the neighborhood and cars being broken into etc..this had nothing to do with the sex offenders, just the local flavor.

  43. #43 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 7:19 pm

    >The local flavor, that is a riot. You have no idea whether it is the sex offenders or not. I will tell you what it does to our community, it makes it look bad. People wanting to move into the area will be extremely discouraged by the idea of multiple houses in a small area filled with sex offenders. Also AIDS victims is not equal to sex offenders. Sex offenders have a lack of control over their actions, I am not saying all but in general they do or they would not commit a crime of this nature in the first place. I understand helping but this is too many in such a small area. Its hard to find compassion for someone who has put their hands on and hurt someone else.

  44. #44 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 7:56 pm

    >Anonymous 3:19 – If you are concerned that it makes our community look bad then I suggest you move then you won't have to be so concerned. Just looking at the area shows that this portion of town is extremely economically depressed. I would think that would be extremely discouraging. There was 2 arson fires 3 years ago in this area, and several drug houses within a 4 block radias as well. I suppose the offenders did this as well right?What I was referring to on the AIDS comment is the mass hysteria that the disease brought on, not the disease being equal to an offender.

  45. #45 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 10:27 pm

    >The citizens of Greenville should be outraged about this!!! How disturbing! Is it going to take a child being harmed before you people will band together for something?! I know you cant band together for anything else like a school levy, but come on! Someone needs to do something before a child is harmed!! This is sick!!

  46. #46 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 11:00 pm

    >"These people aren't the boogeymen" HELL IF THEY ARENT! What's wrong with you?! These men are exactly that, they are what every parent and child should be fearful of!! Get a clue!!I'm worried for your children, hopefully your spouse has more sense than you!! You dont take chances when it comes to children. They cannot protect themselves they rely on us as parents, ecspecially mothers, how can you say those things?! SICK!!

  47. #47 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 11:10 pm

    >It needs to be said that there is no rehabilition taking place in these houses. They simply house them for at least 90 days while they look for work and housing. They usually have no form of transportation and would need approval to travel to work or relocate, so they are tied to the community. How reasonable it to think they are likely to get jobs in a conservative community where good jobs are scarce. Local citizens are struggle with unemployment. This is the wrong place for such a program.Another facet was at the meetings when I saw these men getting involved with young single mothers and moving in with them. Look at their sheets, many molested children. How can this be acceptable?

  48. #48 by Anonymous on June 2, 2010 - 11:39 pm

    >Anonymous June 2, 2010 3:56Yes, Greenville has it's share of crime, that justifies adding to it with SICK sex offenders from around the state?! Just so the Graham's pockets and estate can continue to grow!

  49. #49 by Anonymous on June 3, 2010 - 2:10 am

    >So as I was saying aids does not equal sex offenders. Aids out break is completely different than multiple people convicted of sexual crimes living in a small area because someone enjoys making money off the idea. I'm not saying some couldn't be helped but the amount of people coming from out of town is not fair to our community. Also I would prefer to better my community versus moving away. If you recommend every decent citizen move out of Greenville but encourage sex offenders move in you are going to be looking at a doomed community. If you ever actually looked at that part of town there are plenty of people there who are taking pride in their area. And no I think much of the crime is related to teenagers whose parents don't know where they are at or what they are doing and those are all over town.

  50. #50 by Lower Crust on June 3, 2010 - 9:23 am

    >Not to detract from the topic regarding residents of Samaritan Home Programs; I feel compelled to speak up for the teenagers. There are lots of good teenagers in our Greenville community. The police reports and jail records have many more 21-22 and 24-25 year olds listed than adult teenagers.

  51. #51 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 2:18 pm

    >A few of you are basically blaming the girls, saying they lie about their age….did you read the list of offenses…many were crimes with children under 13…seriously, you cant tell that a 13 yr old is not 18??? Another thing, we can not pass a school levy but if we did, it will do no good. A brand new school will not make good people stay in this community when you are housing all these offenders from other counties/states. So, this is just adding to the probability of another levy failing!!

  52. #52 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 2:33 pm

    >This will not end well for the city and its defenseless women and children. Graham is making good money by placing the city and its people in jeopardy. Many of these criminals are child molesters. Can anyone point to any evidence that a child molester can be cured? Nope, they can't be. It would be one thing if these homes were just for Darke county offenders, bring in this trash from other counties is ridiculous. Someone is going to be harmed by one of these guys, once that happens the city leaders will have many questions to answer as to how they allowed these homes to be opened in this city. Please do not reply that zoning allows it, zoning laws can be changed. I wonder if Graham has grandkids and does he allow them to be around these people? My guess is not.

  53. #53 by Kathy on June 4, 2010 - 3:14 pm

    >3:56 I can tell you that yes we have a drug problem and we are working to change that, yes there were fires on that side of town, but let me tell you this: my grandkids live in this area and in a nice home and have great parents, and you are suggesting that they move? They have worked hard to purchase their home and make a good life for themselves – so they are fighting to keep it that way – keeping their kids safe… when these offenders are allowed to stand acorss the street from the school and stalk there is a problem… He does not offer treament to those offenders – and cannot keep a thumb on them all day – and heck they are not even from this area.. don't we have our share of problems within our own community that we need to help… I would not say its a bad program but it needs to be placed in an area that will allow more supervision – so the State DRC needs to make some changes with their program. And just another note 3:57, I don't live in that area and Im concerned so what kind of comment was that? I put my name to my post – where is yours?

  54. #54 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 3:37 pm

    >It's hard not to have negative thoughts about these people. I used to have the same kinda thoughts about them. Until We became friends with one and never knew it until I seen his pic in the sherriffs file weeks later. It was hard not to judge him for what he had done, and I didn't. He faced up with me but I still did not judge him. I prayed about it and God took care of the rest. We no longer socialize with him, but if I were to see him on the street I'd say Hi! Ya'll might think I'm crazy but I think that some of them rehabed,and yes they can always slip back, I'm not perfect, nor are they.

  55. #55 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 3:49 pm

    >I am aware of someone who recently moved from the area. She informed me she was getting scared as they eyed her sitting on her front porch. Greenville is hurting with no jobs yet Mr Graham continues to ship these people in from other counties. Why can't they serve their 90 days in their own counties. Is it all about money? Who's pocket is being lined Greenville or Grahams? If Mr. Graham thinks its such a good idea, why doesn't he and his family members live in the house with them that way he can keep a close tab on their whereabouts. I believe its a time bomb waiting to go off and when it does, what excuse will Mr. Graham give then? If they are free to leave in 90 days then why does he need another house. Do they guys stay around knowing we are a town that can't or won't do something about them taking up permanent residence here. Do we know for sure they are indeed leaving after 90 days? No more houses for Grahams good deeds (ha)

  56. #56 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 4:16 pm

    >If these people are so little to worry about then why did you quit socailizing with him? These people need to be left in jail to rot, and that's my nice opinion of what needs to be done to them! Anyone who can hurt a small child in that way doesn't deserve to come to a nice community like ours to pray on OUR children! If you like them so much 6-2 2:58 why don't you take them into your own home so that you can keep an eye on them!

  57. #57 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 5:20 pm

    >Not all of the so called victims is children. You keep lumping all of them in the same category. Yes the ones who violent small children need extreme punishment, but the ones who sleep with a teenager who was willing or lied of her age or not they need a more lenient punishment and some good therapy not to rot in jail. I know of one who is trying to fight his case because the girl lied and admited it online but nobody will listen they just say he is denying his crime when he isn't. I know this for fact. The government is not allowing the offenders to go to their home towns to be with their willing familys they are being prevented from that and shipped to places they are not famillar with. So if you all want a change then change the government because their the ones doing it to you. Remember though hate breeds hate and that is what alot of you are doing. Yes the small children that get violated those offenders belong in jail ok I am not saying otherwise at all and the rapists need to be punished to but you really need to uphold some of the lesser crimes need to have their constitutional rights upheld. John welch is out of control and he has a personal vendetta that is out of control. there's alot of offenders that don't have a victim they looked up something on the internet and got trapped, did you know that they have hidden sites that pop up on your computer and if you click it just to see what it is they pop you for it and you instantly become a sex offender they are also trying to make a child endangerment charge be considered a sex offender and make them register so watch out you might get trapped and become a sex offender and then your talking about yourself.

  58. #58 by Amanda on June 4, 2010 - 5:41 pm

    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aABTf9R8VDoPlease copy and paste this link and watch the video. This is for all the people against sex offenders and keep an open mind please.

  59. #59 by DJ on June 4, 2010 - 5:51 pm

    >Amanda ………Did you notice that I didn't list the sex offenders' names? I'm not trying to persecute any sex offenders here.I think you have tried to mislead us by posting a video claiming that 90% of sex offenders do not re-offend. I don't believe that for a minute. But even if it's true — Graham has 12 of these guys here now. Even by your bogus numbers, those odds indicate that one of those guys will reoffend.See that's the problem. Not the sex offenders themselves necessarily, but the guy who's bringing them here in such numbers that we're much more likely to have some sort of tragedy.

  60. #60 by Anonymous on June 4, 2010 - 6:23 pm

    >So Amanda, I guess you are FOR sex offenders? Stop trying to act like these guys are no danger. I am thinking you may have some aquaintance with one or more of these guys.

  61. #61 by Kurt Bluff on June 4, 2010 - 6:59 pm

    >there's no reason to attack Amanda personally for providing a different view.There's something to be said about the spirit and nature of what the Grahams are doing, but the tent pole of their program is community. If the community is not aware of what is going on and the level of offenders rises and rises (both in number of offenders and the severity of their crimes), what is the community to do by react?It isn't about being for or against offenders. Also, these 'hidden' sites that are spoken of. I'd love to read a credible source on the subject. because i'm calling shenanigans. Yes, there are stings, but you have to do a lot more than simply click on a site and boom, you're an offender.

  62. #62 by Anonymous on June 5, 2010 - 12:37 pm

    >I am gonna go out on a limb here and say something. I wonder if these sex offender shelters would be allowed in say….the park area? How about the northern area, say Radclif Drive? nah, I doubt it. The city leaders don't care because the part of town where Graham is forcing these perverts into is not one of the upper class areas of this city. Just wait until one woman or child is raped or worse by one of these criminals. The city council will have some questions to answer.

  63. #63 by Anonymous on June 5, 2010 - 12:40 pm

    >"there's alot of offenders that don't have a victim they looked up something on the internet and got trapped, did you know that they have hidden sites that pop up on your computer and if you click it just to see what it is they pop you for it and you instantly become a sex offender" LOL yeah right. Poor innocent guy was just trapped into going to a kiddie porn site.

  64. #64 by Anonymous on June 5, 2010 - 3:02 pm

    >For those of you outraged by this program and what John is doing think about this. He has been running this program for years. There has been offenders in some of these homes for years. But NOW you are outraged? I have not heard of one rape recent in Darke Co. So just where are the repeat offenders? Taking a sabatical? These are low tier offenders trying to make a life for themselves again. If you don't like the neighborhood, move. No one told you that you have to stay there.

  65. #65 by Anonymous on June 5, 2010 - 8:01 pm

    >To Anonymous June 4 2010 The reason for not socializing with him is that his wife and my wife worked together and were best friends. His wife passed away acouple years ago, and as usual he stopped socializing as a lot of the living spouses do. I do have to agree on these people should have to remain in their own counties and states. This guy has a good job, and goes to church on his Sunday off. So you never know the one next to you at work or praying with you in church could be him. Perhaps the Cinclair home could be turned into a home for them…… Greenville would have saved a lot of time and money if they'd put up a linching post and gelatin, instead of a fountain. Hang'm or crop off the head!

  66. #66 by Marissa on June 5, 2010 - 9:05 pm

    >I am a parent of three young girls and I just have to say…. in what world is an abduction and rape of any aged child a low tier offense? My God! Do you have children? I cant bring myself to believe that you do. The emotional not to mention physical pain these people inflicted on these children shakes me to my very core. And my word trapped into kiddie porn?..Oh dear I hope you have never left this man alone with your children. And for you above….Did you not read the list of offenses these men have commited? I'd just like to know what you consider a high tier offense? Because they didnt kill the children after they abducted and raped them? Does that make it easier for you to accept? Well I dont accept any of it and I refuse to do so for my children and all children. And in what court of law does an offender do 12 years for a low tier offense? Get your facts straight these men have commited horrible crimes against children and you try to sugar coat it? Are you yourself an offender?

  67. #67 by Anonymous on June 5, 2010 - 11:40 pm

    >8:37, the only reason the houses are not located in those neighborhoods is because he couldn't afford the cost of a home in those areas. He only paid $13,000 for his latest home, which is not what you'll pay for a home on Radclif Drive.

  68. #68 by Anonymous on June 6, 2010 - 1:06 am

    >So beyond the sex offenders why does't everyone look at all offenders in all that are housed here. It is too bad that no one has the names of all the offenders no matter what the charge, and see how many are currently housed or have been housed within the last month at the Darke County Jail. I would also like to know how much money is being made by housing these offenders, but I know that is not possible. Just think he is making money and the Sheriff and Police Department are told to tighten belts. I think it's pitiful that someone makes big money to watch them offend over and over and over again, but the money is cut from the ones who should really be watching them. Just something to think about.

  69. #69 by Guest#1 on June 6, 2010 - 2:29 am

    >". If you don't like the neighborhood, move. No one told you that you have to stay there"Spoken like a true liberal, someone else makes a problem and you get to pay for it, and good luck trying to a decent price for a house in that area, and that somehow is your own fault? for what? having the bad luck of living in a area where someone is warehousing sexual offenders?Get real.

  70. #70 by Kathy on June 6, 2010 - 1:21 pm

    >Mr. Graham under the name Good Samaritan Home, Inc., recieved $ 76,650.00 per year for 6 placements from Ohio Departmenmt of Rehabilitation and Correction. His current contract was signed on July 1, 2009 and expires June 30, 2010. The remainder of his money comes from local sources.

  71. #71 by Anonymous on June 6, 2010 - 10:52 pm

    >Nonody should have to move, but some of you think you know facts when you don't. These men have to be in these houses by ten pm, if they are not they go back to prison, there is 24 hour surviellence in these houses with cameras. There is alarms on the doors that activate from 10 pm to 5:30 am. The third street place is still a battered womens shelter. Yes 90% of offenders are not going to repeat. Most cases are new offenses. Repeat offenders get harsher punishments. Most of the offenders that are shipped to Greenville are low tiered and I repeat MOST are not all. The tiered system has recently changed so some of the offenders levels changed. Yes child endangerment is now treated as if they are sex offenders and have to register. Unfortunately most counties do not have homes where the released offenders may go so yes they get shipped to places where they are unfamilar and have to live there. It is only for 90 days then if they cannot take care of thereselves they can either go to a shelter or back to prison. Some of you are just being overly paranoid, if your a responsible parent and know where your child is then what is to worry about. But if you are careless and let them walk out the door with out knowing where they are going, no number to contact them with then you need some parenting lessons. There is more than just sex offenders to worry about, what about drunk driving, drugs, murder. I do not condone sex with children it is very disgusting but as june 5 11:02 said, why are you guys now becoming outraged, why not years ago. Even though nothing has happened in a long time with any of these guys. Wake up don't just advocate for this, advocate for the drugs and other crap that happens here.

  72. #72 by JME on June 6, 2010 - 11:13 pm

    >Sounds like you are very familiar with the system concerning sex offenders. Stop blaming victims.

  73. #73 by ABK on June 7, 2010 - 1:22 am

    >Nobody is blaming the victims so you can stop thinking we are. Yes I know the system not because I'm an offender as I am not and I am married with a child of my own. Everybody calls these guys monsters but a good 80% of all sex offenders where molested as children. Are you going to be upset about a female house of sex offenders, more than likely not because most people know that they just had sex with a teenager. Can anyone admit that not all sex offenders are horrible people that they just had sex with the wrong girl, and I mean a willing partner not a unwilling one. It happens a lot now as more and more teenagers are doing everything they can to have sex. The teenage pregnancy rate is at a all time high, yet no one wonders why? It is the lack of parenting that is going on. Yes I know with the economy being as bad as it is that it is hard for one parent to stay home, but we as parents need to develope a system with our children so we know where they are at all times and who they are with. It is not hard to do yet it is not done. There would be less victims in the world if this was done. This day and age it pays to take an interest in our childrens lives. The biggest crime that I wish we could control is the crimes against children by their own parent and in some cases parents. No father or mother should ever have sex with their own child, that is sick, those are the ones that need severe punishment, not the dumb guys that sleep with some girl who wanted to. Maybe the should really review all the cases and see if the can seperate the violent crimes from the dumb guys who made a mistake. Because I am right with everyone when it comes to the violent sex crimes, the belong in prison and should stay their. I know one of the guys in one of those houses and he is disgusted to be around the rapists and the ones who molested young children. So what do you do with that? They need a better system when it comes to the sex offender system.

  74. #74 by ABK on June 7, 2010 - 2:33 pm

    >Kathy maybe you should read a little better instead of seeing what you want. I did not say all of them were low tierd I said MOST not all. I never said one may not reoffend but the success rate their in greenville is very good. I never said that bad things don't happen to people like the cinnccinati mom. I feel sorry for her. All I am saying is parents need to take a better interest in their childrens lives. Their was a case not long ago where a 3 year old little boy was found wandering the streets buck naked. Where were the parents for that. Any argument for that. It is not 1950 anymore, we live in a dangerous world and an active interest in our children is what will protect them the most. Unfortunate events happen and it is sad. I would never want anything to happen to my son. But I also know that people have extremely closed minds when it comes to sex crimes. How many times do I have to repeat, NOT ALL OF THE CRIMES COMMITTED ARE HORRIBLE CRIMES THAT TAKE PLACE AGAINST CHILDREN. yes the ones against children are bad and need real tight supervision or permenant jail time. But the lesser crimes deserve a second chance at a better life. Geez, you can't stop crime but you can protect yourself and be a responsible parent/grandparent. Yes the third street battered womens shelter is there, call mr. graham yourself if you think it isn't. Those camera's are there for your protection as is the alarms so you can sleep in bed knowing nothing will happen to you because if the alarm goes off then the cops come and arrest, if the cameras see one climbing out a window or doing anything against the law they are arrested. Everyone blames them for all the problems, do they cause your drug problem, no that was already there. I never placed blame on parents ok you are reading more into than is being said, you see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear. You've had no problems out of these home so stop complaining, it's a successful program you just want to take your paranoia out on someone and it turns to them. Good job Mr. Graham you are doing a good job, keep it up and God will take care of the hypocrites. Maybe you people need to remember the saying WWJD what would jesus do? Would he persecute these people as your doing, NO he would pray for them and give them a chance to better themselves. If your a christain you would not be on here saying all these things, you would support them changing into good citizens. How would you want to be treated if it was turned around on you and you wanted to change but people threaten to kill you and beat you up, and offer no hope to you. And no I am not one of them I am a concerned citizen and a happily married mother.

  75. #75 by Kathy on June 7, 2010 - 9:25 pm

    >I do not want to take a chance of tomarrow… Sex addiction against women, children and men is a disease and yes can be helped with professional help, these offenders are not getting that help. You are right the success rate is good for now – I do not want to take that chance for tomarrow. This is our community and we have our own troubles with drugs alcohol and other isseus right here that we need to deal with. Our unemployment is higher than we have ever had, so why are we bringing in out of county offenders when we are stuggling to help our own. Your opinion is your opinion and that is why we live in such a graet country for freedom of speech and I repect you for your opinions on this issue. By the way, I am a born again christian!

  76. #76 by JME on June 7, 2010 - 10:10 pm

    >Anyone who thinks a child molester can ever be "rehabilitated" is only kidding themselves. Studies have proven that a child molester cannot be "cured". Some of you people defending them need to maybe bring one of them into your homes or maybe let them babysit your kids or grandkids. I understand, it must be hard to have a sex offender in your family thus making you feel you have to defend them here. I really hope you people wake up before some innocent child is raped, molested or God forbid worse.

  77. #77 by ABK on June 7, 2010 - 11:18 pm

    >If your a born again christain then believe in the power of pray and pray for these guys that they can get on with their lives. Stop worrying about tomorrow you'll drive yourself nuts doing that. Just take appropriate precautions and 9 times out of 10 you'll be fine. Unemployment is high every where and that is because of the horrible government leadership we have. As you know prices on everything keeps going up but are we getting paid more, no. These guys have no where to go and someone in your town felt like being a good person and helping them out. They would be more likely to reoffend if they were on the streets in their home towns instead of in a program that allows them sometime to get on their feet and eventually move on to where they belong. Think about that ok, would you rather have them reoffending or actually getting help. I would think greenville would be happy that they think about people who need a chance to get better. I know it is scary but the success rate is good and it's only 90 days. Open up your heart, what did Jesus do when he met Mary Magdelon ( I think I spelled her last name wrong sorry. ) he looked past her faults and knew she was a good person at heart. I am not saying all of these people are good but at least try to forgive and let go. God gives everybody an opportunity to change why not help that along and offer bible studies to these guys, try to make them a better part of the community, at least you get one benefit if you do, if these guys are working or in programs to help them out then their supervised, correct. What about the jobs people hate to do, like a community action plan, have them clean up the town and at the same time help them onto their feet. At least they would always be watch and the town could benefit from it. It would be nice to if other counties would start up houses like this then maybe less offenders would end up their. So if you know someone in Miami county or Shelby county talk to them about doing this, they could also make decent money from it from what I hear.

  78. #78 by Kurt on June 9, 2010 - 1:05 pm

    >Just based on the info above, 50% of the 12 are in for either harming a child under 13 or Rape.This is not a case of "most of them are in for making a mistake, thinking a 17 year old was 18."ABK: You rant about parents needing to pay more attention, even going out of your way to provide an anecdotal example of a child wandering around naked with no parent in sight… THEN you say you're not blaming parents. Needless to say, i'm confused by you.Yes, your Christian beliefs may lead you to want to harbor and rehabilitate these folks.My moral and protective beliefs lead me to want to provide the safest environment for my children. When there are 6 individuals drawn to live within 2 blocks of my home that were all convicted of either a sex crime against a child under the age of 13 or Rape, my protective instinct is going to win. My 1st obligation is to my family. To make sure they are safe and that the environment they are raised in has the lowest probability for harm to come to them.Sure, if we pretend your made up on the spot statistic of 9 out of ten times they will be safe is true, that's still too much.You also point out that "it's only 90 days." It's 90 days per individual. Know what that means? Every 90 days we get a new set of offenders in the place. That would mean a maximum of 4 cycles per year at 12 offenders each time. That's 48 individual offenders coming through our neighborhood.9 out of ten doesn't look as good if that implies 4 incidents a year.Back to reality… this has been going on for some time and there haven't been incidents as of yet that I'm aware of. For me personally, I'd just like a little more notice from John G on what exactly is going on. During the intial outrage several years ago, he made it clear that sex offenders would not be part of the program… Now they seem to be all of the program. I understand his silence to a degree. He's able to operate more efficiently when the community is not up in arms about it. But he himself preaches that it takes a community to rehabilitate. Unless he can provide enough community on his own for these individuals, I'm not sure he is following on his own philosophy.I would like more information about the project in general, seeing as right now the only time i know anything about it is when I get a new postcard in the mail.

  79. #79 by Anonymous on June 9, 2010 - 1:13 pm

    >I live is this area and I don't know of one supporter of Mr Gram that lives near these houses. The supporters of Mr Gram need to take the sex offenders into ther homes if they think this is such a good ideal

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